Saturday, 30. June 2007

irark nun auch youtube

der gute alte IRARK Film vom Grenz und mir, den er jetzt auf Youtube gestellt hat, kudos an Niko.

immer noch gültig "sie haben den verdammeten Krieg angefangen nun müssen sie ihn auch zu ende bringen". "Es ist nur eine Frage der Zeit ..."



Es ist verrückt, wir hatten in den ersten Tagen des Kriegs im Jahr 2003 gedacht das wird nichts mit Blitzkrieg, und leider ists wirklich daneben gegangen.
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Friday, 29. June 2007

Creating Standards is altruistic?

update: based on the comments, I learned that the original idea "creating standards is altruistic" was wrong. It seems that altruism plays a role, but vendors gain a market advantage when implementing a standard first. Making good products that spread is another way to create a standard.

so, this is wrong for now:

Creating standards, as for example the W3C or the ISO does, is an deeply altruistic behavior and I think a hint that the people involved are altruistic.

A definition of altruistic is "Benefiting others without regard for one’s own needs or safety."

Creating a standard is usually a process of endless and endless discussions, exchanging arguments, giving arguments for every decision, reworking drafts, fixing formulations, agreement, and discourse, and this process can last over years, and usually does last more than a year. The outcome is rather simple: a document describing the decisions in one simple manner. If you look at the HTML, HTTP and URI specs, you can read and understand them in a day. It took years from the first idea to write and improve them to their state, and it took a lot longer time, namely many years, to establish them as a standard.

Now, what is the benefit of creating a standard? For the author, nothing. The author doesn't get paid for it (unless you charge for reading your standard, what many organisations do). You don't get fame nor money, because you invested all your time into the standard, but not into your product, which can now by copied by everyone in the world by implementing the standard.

So, why do people do standards? I cannot say for you, but I work on them because I think that the world would suck very hard if we not had standards for some things. Think of having to switch to a different browser when looking at asian websites, like carrying around an platoon of power adapters so that you hopefully can suck electricity from whatever socket you are confronted with.

The opposite of making a standard is implementing the solution. Then you have it, your great solution, coded in executable binary, nothing can go wrong now. You are quick to do it, you don't have to care much for documentation, and your customer is happy.

But imagine looking at a website hosted by an Internet Information Server (Microsoft) would mean that you have to use a Microsoft Operating System, or a Microsoft TV, or a Microsoft Phone. At first, there is no problem. But after others did the same, I would have to carry around many phones. So, clever people (who are often altruistic and may work for market leaders like Microsoft Corp.) see these problems beforehand and decide to sit down to make a standard, once sitting you notice that there are others seated next to you who feel the same.

Some say "the good things about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from". This is not true, because for anyone in such situation of choosing, "good" is exactly not the way you feel, because you get this slight feeling deep inside, that your decision is shiny today, but sits down in some dark place and comes to bite your behind years later.

So, if you are stuck again while working on a standard, like me at the moment, and life is blackened by endless arguments and paperwork, think about why you started the whole thing.

And on the other hand, if you watch people like the W3C members sitting around in endless discussions about details, dissecting every piece of it and making a lot of seemingly useless paperwork, and you think to yourself "ha, I could do a better standard alone", think twice. First of all, open your cupboard and get out your beloved assortment of travel power socket adapters for a short personal meditation about the stupidity of man. Then, think of the motivation of people writing standards: not money nor fame can be the reason, there is neither of it in it, they do it for you.

p.s. HM, the Queen of Britain, has honored Tim Berners-Lee again by giving him the Order Of Merit, putting him in one league with Florence Nightingale and Mother Theresa. I think this does not only honor him but also everyone wasting his life away for the W3C and technical standards in general. People travelling as much as the royals do, seem to know the irony of power sockets that look a bit unfamiliar compared to the plug you want to put in them, and cars that have their gear switch on the left hand side of you, adding to the irritation of driving them on the "wrong" side of the road. Feel free to comment.

p.p.s. perhaps I don't get it because I am a complicated thinking Java programmer and not a witty Python hacker (like Gromgull), where the standard is set by best practice.
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ix (guest) - 30. Jun, 03:08

standards occur as a byproduct of creating something else, and they (the standards) can be documented, to aid others. the WhatWG understood this from the beginning. as such, it is clear that those documenting the standard so someone else can figure it out faster, and those creating something which became so prevalent due to its usefulness, desirability, improvements over other options, are both altruistic.

but creating 'standards' out of the blue based on academic discussion has a much tougher argument for altruism. i'm having trouble thinking how something like the RDF/XML 'standard' helped me when i couldn't even successfully crossgrade data between redland, virtuoso, and jena without parsing/import errors in one or both directions (or exporting errors for that matter), requiring me to invent my own JSON format that actually worked for what the 'standards-compliant' apps couldn't. 2 interoperable implementations does not make a standard. 80% market concensus and little change in that concensus for 2 years and 3-6 'major' implementations and many minor ones, does.

i could also argue that making up a standard like SPARQL has held back implementations of Versa and development of MQL-like languages, by virtue of how those who blindly follow 'standard's bodies allocate their development resources.

so i agree that standards are altruistic, i disagree on your definition of standards. i also especially take issue with "The opposite of making a standard is implementing the solution." then equating these with binary/proprietary. many who created what became de facto standards knew the 'rules' before they broke them.. and often offer their results as open source. standards should never 'prescribe' solutions, and it sounds like thats what youre arguing for here (along with the good feeling of being the 'good doctor'.) i don't buy it.

Ora Lassila (guest) - 1. Jul, 02:07

Standards in the Real World

I don't think I quite agree with your view of standards. Even though it sounds nice, altruism plays a much smaller role in the standards definition process than you would think. Take W3C, as an example: Most members of the consortium are commercial companies which typically do very few things because of altruism. Companies participate in the standards process because they have something to gain. Ideally, this is a "pre-competitive" activity, where the emergence of a standard actually creates or enables a market. The standard is a prerequisite for doing business in the first place. Sometimes, however, participation in the process is dictated by the need to keep competitors in check. The beauty of this is that the process itself can be crafted in a way that companies get what they want, and those people who are driven by altruism (like, say, the founders of W3C) also get what they want.

Usually, a standard should be created once the associated technology is sufficiently mature or is understood "well enough". In the case of the Semantic Web, the situation is quite peculiar: The initial standards (like RDF and OWL) were created very early ("too early" some would say) but this was actually necessary for the subsequent research work to be possible.

As for writing the standard by yourself, yes, that of course is possible and in fact the result probably would be better. The benefit of a group of people agonizing over seemingly worthless details over a period of a year or more is that it creates "buy-in" and that is incredibly valuable, because a standard is only worth something if various organizations, companies, etc. are committed to actually deploying it.

leobard - 11. Jul, 08:55

creating standards II

(meta: I assume that above comman was written by Ora Lassila, but without openid, you never know.)

ix, the argument that by promoting SPARQL, MQL or Versa have been held back, is true. The same will probably happen with RDF VS microformats, whoever gets popular first, will be used.

My definition of standards is rather vague, the blogpost sums up some personal assumptions I have. I am working now in one EU project were we create standard documents, but I have never worked in a W3C committee (I contribute to an interest group for marketing).
The binary statement: "The opposite of making a standard is implementing the solution.", can also be read as two ends of an Axis, where a standard-making-process can be placed. The W3C require reference implementations at some stages of the process. Measuring the "invested work" against the visible outcome counted in documents, implementing a solution as a vendor and then documenting it is cheaper than implementing the reference implementation and then discussing it within a working group. This difference is also part of the binary sentence. Well, the sentence was blunt. But it caused you to comment, which helps me ,and the interested reader, to learn.

If I understood it right, ix wrote that creating a product that is prevalent because of its usefulness is altruistic. I would not connect that as a causal connection with altruism, because some of these products were made to make profit. But as Ora Lassila has put it, creating W3C standards is also driven both by altruistic and by commercial interests.

So probably the whole title of the blogpost is wrong, "creating standards is altruistic". I will fix that.

about the status of RDF: as Ora Lassila put it, RDF and OWL were created very early, they have some "rough edges". I also had trouble with XML serializations, but often they were caused by the "latest SVN-alpha" versions of libraries I used.

Thursday, 14. June 2007

about Eclipse and other rich client GUIs for the Semantic Web

In the last year, I was involved in many discussions revolving about the question of "how to make a semantic desktop gui". Semantic Web guis in general have to be dynamic, adaptive, generic, because the ontologies are changing and data of two ontologies can be mixed. This causes friction in software development, when all our frameworks and developers are used to relational databases or compiled Java beans that hold the information.

To gather my own thoughts for our NEPOMUK project I have prepared some slides to get an overview, a document summing up my view, and a screencast showing one framework. If you are interested in Semantic Web guis on the desktop, have a look. If you have a similar itch to scratch and want to join our open source projects, contact me!
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Dude (guest) - 14. Jun, 23:03

Desktop Applications

> generic, because the ontologies are changing and data of two
> ontologies can be mixed.

I'm wondering how that works out usability-wise. Generalization is something geeks and software developer rave about, but an UI is often more effective and comprehendible if it concentrates one thing and does that thing right. I don't believe in "You can manipulate all kinds of data with this UI and everything is generated" before I actually see it working.
For example, how do you want to generate an UI from an ontology? Simply adding controls and input fields for all properties won't suffice to make a usable interface.

"This causes friction in software development, when all our frameworks and developers are used to relational databases or compiled Java beans that hold the information."

Really? We're talking about the desktop, right? Neither Java beans (or Java in general) nor rational databases are the building blocks of today's desktop applications. It's rather C, C++ and the like. Rational databases might become part of it but haven't yet.

leobard - 22. Jun, 08:58

desktop and ontologies

thanks for the feedback, I agree here:
* hand-crafted guis are more usable than auto-generated
* Java is a minority on the desktop


When coming to "professional" software I disagree, especially with desktop ERP, CRM, Etc:
* MS-Outlook is build from standard components, the forms are a scripted assembly of components, the underlying basis is hardcore c/c++
* if you run SAP R/3 or Lotus Notes, most of the GUI is somehow auto-generated (not that R/3 is known for its top usability)
* We develop Java because we can run it on all platforms and its simple to program (comapred to c), so this is a development cost question
* Relational databases are sometimes embedded inside applications for easier programming.

Sunday, 10. June 2007

Reification (the other meaning)

"Reification is the soul of the Semantic Web" is a good example of reification in the Marxist interpretation. Don't believe me? Then stumble yourself accross the wikipedia article on reification (marxism).

Reification (German: Verdinglichung, literally: "thing-ification") is the consideration of an abstraction or an object as if it had human (pathetic fallacy) or living (reification fallacy) existence and abilities; at the same time it implies the thingification of social relations.

More:
Ordinary examples of Reification

Reification occurs when specifically human creations are misconceived as “facts of nature, results of cosmic laws, or manifestations of divine will”. [3]

Reification is very visible in advertising when the advertiser or designer deliberately tries to associate a commercial product with all kinds of desirable qualities or contexts, with the suggestion that if you buy the product, that you will have access to or experience those desirable qualities. The product thus acquires an deliberately contrived imaginary status in addition to its real status.

A very graphic visual example of reification is pornography in which sexual acts are separated out from the total human context in which they occur.

Reification also frequently occurs in language and any form of communication which involves the representation of things or relationships by symbols. For example, the sentence "Make your money work for you" contains a reification, because money does not do any work at all, people do. The power to do work is falsely attributed to money.

A characteristic of mental illness can be that the mentally-ill person reifies himself or parts of the world around him, misplacing the true context of things, or attributing powers to himself and to objects in the world which they do not really have.


Because of heavily copy/pasted from wikipedia, this blog post is under available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License.
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Tuesday, 5. June 2007

Semantic Web Case Studies Published by SWEO

Do you want to know what problems the Semantic Web solved?

The Semantic Web Education and Outreach (SWEO) Interest Group is pleased to announce the first set of Case Studies and Use Cases giving some examples of how the Semantic Web of machine readable data is used today. Applications are presented in areas ranging from automotive to health care, and from B2B systems to geographical information systems. The SWEO Interest Group will continue to publish new Case Studies and Use Cases in the future; an RSS feed for new submissions is available. A short overview is also available in Open Document Format, PDF, and HTML formats.

see the original post by Susie Stephens at W3C.
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rory (guest) - 12. Jun, 05:18

PhD

Susie just keeps talking and make sense in her cases presentations; Eric Neumann tried to stop everyone from doing their planned programs at the W3C to trash TIm BL-- what was up with that and why are things falling apart in the working group? Tim BL has poor judgement in personal matters, or so the mobs say, but, bad news travels fast so I would just keep working and stop the chit chat.

leobard - 22. Jun, 09:05

Hi rory

hm, sounds like you are fudding ... please add links to facts. I cannot extract meaning from this:
* please specify - what is eric up to?
* which working group is falling apart? If one is falling apart, there are always many running at the same time, one missing doesn't split W3C.
* Tim Bl may be a special character, but what are you referring to?

I would say that the W3C makes its job as a standardization body very good, given the task of "being a standardization body", there is no silver bullet.
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